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PaulDotCom Security Weekly - Episode 268 for Thursday December 1st, 2011.

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Guest Interview: Scott Moulton

6:00 PM EDT

Scott Moulton is known both for his trademark 'Forensic Unit' hat and his unholy knack for finding new data recovery techniques the other experts don't want you to know. Scott is owner of both My Hard Drive Died.com and Forensic Strategy Services and fills his days recovering data from all kinds of storage devices, testifying in court, and teaching others to do data recovery.

  1. What are some of the forensic challenges with SSD drives?
  2. Give us ten things we didnt know about our hard drives
  3. Tell us about your recent SkydogCon talk about SHA1 Hashes.
  4. Are you surprised by Wired's findings on cell phone provider retention periods?
  5. In 1999, you were the first person arrested for Port Scanning. What was it like to be featured in the NMAP book by Fyodor ?
  6. In 2006, you were the first person that prosecutors attempted to go after for doing computer forensics without a Private Investigators License while testifying on the stand in a criminal case in Georgia. Is that what started the mess about computer forensics having to be Private Investigators in various states?
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Special Guest Tech Segment: Ariel Waissbein, Anibal Sacco and Matias Eissler talk OS X sandbox

7PM EST

Ariel, Anibal, and Matias are respectively, Director, Senior Exploit Writer, and Senior Developer at CoreLabs, the research center of Core Security. While their research focus is in attack technologies for workstations, servers and web applications, they're on tonight to discuss their recent research on Bypassing the OS X Sandbox.


  1. How is this vulnerability different than Charlie Miller Black Hat Japan 2008 talk?
  2. How was the reporting process with Apple?

Bios

Ariel Waissbein is the head of CoreLabs, the company's research and development center. As such, he is responsible for all day-to-day research and publishing activities as well as driving and protecting the Core's intelectual property. Lately, he co-lead the team that devised Core CloudInspect an automated pentesting service run from and targeting Amazon Web Services. Waissbein holds an undergraduate degree in Mathematics from Buenos Aires Univerity and is a Ph.D candidate in this same university. Prior to joining Core he started his career in research in the academia, within the realm of geometric elimination and computational number theory.

We host a lot of information in Core's Research website: http://corelabs.coresecurity.com/

Anibal Sacco is a Sr Exploit Writer and Reverse Engineer at CORE Security Technologies.He has been researching vulnerabilities and developing exploits for Windows, OS X and Linux for 6 years. Focusing first in windows kernel-mode vulnerabilities and rootkit development, and lately in OSX vulnerabilities.

Anibal is currently in charge of the OS X exploits area and as researcher, he has talked in some of the most important security conferences like Black Hat, CanSecWest, SyScan and Ekoparty. He also published several advisories addressing different vulnerabilities. More information can be found at: http://corelabs.coresecurity.com/

Anibal's main interests are: Reverse engineering, vulnerability research, network security, malware analysis, fuzzing and embbeded devices.


Matias Eissler is a Sr. Developer at Core Security. He has been working on the fields of information gathering, attack planning, file infection and client-side capabilities. Lately he has joined the Exploit Writing Team where he contributes with exploit effectiveness and reliability.

Stories For Discussion

Larry's Stories

  1. The Rhino in the Room - [Larry] - Yikes, a cross platform Java exploit, tested by Rapid7 on Windows, Ubuntu and OSX, albeit recently patched. I wholeheartedly agree with a quote from @Viss - I cant wait to use this with SET.
  2. Carrier IQ - [Larry] Interesting. Data gathering of all data-ish traffic on your phone, including EVERYTHING typed into the phone. Scary. First off, how is a normal person supposed to be able to detect this? The point is, they aren't….
  3. 3 Character passwords is not APT - [Larry] = OMG SCADA HAX! While we've heard reports lately about water pumps blowing up after hacks, which the FBI says isn't true (coverup maybe?), another hacker was upset. So, the new hacker makes their own statement by allegedly compromising A Seimens HMI system that was internet accessible with a 3 character password. Wow, not only are the folks who implement and maintain SCADA-ish networks not learning about internet connectivity issues, the password thing is inexcusable.
  4. Encrypted wireless for Law enforcement - [Larry] - Ok, claims that criminals are using fixed radios with remote access via smartphones to monitor law enforcement radio comms. Ok, cool, so law enforcement says that they will encrypt communications. I wonder if they will attempt to use P-25, or something else. Of course this becomes interesting if they are using public radio space…
  5. Update broswer plugins? - [Larry] - So, we've done a better job of updating our OSes (arguably), a little bit better job of updating third party apps (marginally), and a decent job of updating our browsers (as a part of the OS, irony much?), but how about those browser plugins? (Shockwave, Adobe, etc.), yeah, we don't have a real great insight into browser plugins and maintenance. In many cases, we can;t restrict our users from what they install, let alone if they use a different browser. What are we to do?
  6. SAY IT ISN'T SO! - [Larry] - Yeah, there is a reported XSS vulnerability in the search function of freeporn.com. Ok guys. I get it and the jokes about porn, compromises and sex selling, but please, lay off the pr0n hax. Especially the free stuff. Oh, or, fix your shit.

Paul's Stories

  1. Network monitoring panel built from the IT Department junk heap - Really cool usage of old technology, using Nagios, this dude built a network monitoring panel. Sometime security boils down to good systems administration. Ideally you know about stuff before it breaks. When you can't, know about it as soon as possible, and monitoring tools like this are really important. Except when your boss wants to walk by this all the time and ask why something is down, even though it may be normal, so be careful who sees it.
  2. Hackers Publish UN Credentials - There are two security fails here. The first, is SQL injection. I don't know when we're gonna be able to convince people that there are problems with applications that face the Internet that need to be prevented. Ideally, security testing is part of your QA proces (yes, that means there is a QA process in the first place). And the QA teams find the problems before they go public. SQL injection is pretty easy to find, harder to exploit in some cases, but pretty easy to find with today's modern tools. So, if your letting attackers find it for you, shame on you. If your not scanning your Internet facing systems on a daily basis, shame on you (better yet your Internet facing IP addresses). Don't forget, its one thing to scan them, and another to actually fix the problems! Also, have and enforce a password complexity policy on all your applications that support it, please. Much of the password insecurity can be stemmed off by simply requiring a 10 character password. I was helping someone the other night and their domain password for their job was "new".
  3. Was police chief’s computer hacked by journalists? - This is not journalism at its finest, again, permission is important.
  4. HP douses firebomb printer hack threat - Could you set a printer on fire? HP claims that the thermal controls are outside the scope of the firmware. This is likely true, though they also claim that firmware updates are validated since 2009, but researchers are displuting it. Look, this is a big deal if you can put your own firmware easily on a printer, and send yourself all the print jobs in the entire company. If it turns out to fall short of that, its not a big deal. I hope its true, because we'd use this on every pen test, not just to say "ha ha, you forgot to update your printers", but to collect information about the company for other attacks. Pen testing is about stringing information and vulnerabilities together to achieve your goals, then make real recommendations for improved security (which should always be more than "patch yo' shit").
  5. New Apple TV may be optimized for motion sensitive controllers & Siri - I'm just sayin', I want one. However, I wonder if the motion will be Bluetooth and if the Siri can be hacked even more. Might be a fun project.
  6. More CSRF Made Easy w/ XSSF - Go John, Go John, its your birthday.
  7. Cracking MD5 Passwords with BozoCrack - So simple, yet so awesome. Use Google to crack passwords. Nuf' said, learn it use it know it.
  8. Apple Took 3+ Years to Fix FinFisher Trojan Hole - Look, Apple sucks at security, OS X gets viruses. The post from the Apple fanboy is just ridculous. This is a real problem that went unaddressed. Apple sucks, they should have fixed it. They don't pay attention to security nearly enough. But for some reason, i still use their products...
  9. A Quick Test to See Who is Lazy and Who is Not in The Organization - We all hate this guy: "when someone will sit there forever to take that very last drop, look around to see if anyone is watching, and then vanish into the ether without putting in a new bottle.". But we've all been "that guy" at some point too. However, I bet there is a correlation between the guy who runs from an empty water bottle, and the guy whose password is "new". I might observe the water cooler on the next pen test.