Secure Digital Life #69
Recorded on June 19, 2018 at G-Unit Studios in Rhode Island!
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Interview: Matthew Silva, RWU
Today's show is about how to a career in Cybersecurity via the ol' College Try path.
We have talked about Certs and such but as the field matures, it is certainly increasingly likely that you both can and need a college degree in the field.
There are definitely negatives and positives about college that affect your decision but certainly when you hit that move from entry to mid level in 2 or 3 years, that box just about has to be checked.
HIGH SCHOOL BACKGROUND AND INTEREST IN CYBER
What do you think Matt? Obviously, you made the college decision. What factors went into your decision to go to school instead of just say hitting the bricks?
Obviously, I went to school (I mean really) but we do get that person with the, why not just go to work kind of idea. I like the concept but you get tripped up on promotion and as the competition grows in the field, you are going to get more of that.
MAJORING IN CYBER VS COMP SCI
- / lots of schools have some sort of cyber degree but more have just straight up computer science degrees */
Let's talk about computer science a bit, yay! Now, I have always proudly considered myself a computer scientist but at some point I veered off into cybersecurity because it was a big deal and a lot of people wanted me to work for them doing audits and forensics on technology.
- /What do you think the difference in computer science, computer information systems, and cybersecurity really is? */
Do you think that computer science is the same thing?
- / how is what you’re learning different? */
GAINING EXPERIENCE VERSUS BOOK LEARNING Another area is to make connections to the industry and the people in it. Not everyone knows how this industry works, who the players are, and what to do?
A common question I get is: What do I need to know? I usually tell people, you have to be interested in the technology ideas to really succeed in the field what do you think, Matt? As a follow up, what do you think you need to know, I mean, what skills do think are the most important?
The other piece that has a lot of interest is in internships as well. I always think that for students, getting out into the environment and seeing what is going on, there is a lot of difference between a corporate job and a paid pen tester, is important. What do you think about that? What kind of internships have you already done?
What do you think Matt? What's the best way to get involved and make connections? Do you have any tips for students or potential students out there about getting involved in the industry? Do you think it's important to get involved in high school? If so, how?
HIRING EDGE/ STANDING OUT IN JOB MARKET: CERTIFICATES? Let's talk about certs a little bit too. I am a believer in certs but I do think you can overdo it as well. Certs require CPEs, recert, money, etc. and are just about always designed with corporate employees in mind in terms of training and testing.
Are there any certs you think you would want to get before you graduate?
RWU PRODUCT PLACEMENT So, if students are out there looking for schools, and obviously, we are sponsored by a school and I work for that school and you attend that school, I always tried to build my programs around the entry level job requirements. As a student, what do you think people should be looking for in a school